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Dawn it's best to not tell in laws. That has to be your h's place. I got involved and told h's parents and family what he was doing and h walked out and never returned. Hence part of the big mess we are in and h blames me.

Sooners, don't confront she would be affended and the truth may not come out anyway.

Focus on reaching out with love unconditionally and stand while she is off thinking or doing whatever.


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I got the flower arrangement figured out to day the florists really helped me put something together, I'm a guy and heck even I'm excited about this arrangement. I am going to get a dozen pink roses and two other flowers that I can't mention yet. The vase is really pretty too. They wrote down my order but I am going to bring a card. What I write in the card will be simple and probably only a sentence or so, was just trying to decide on ending it with Love Steven or not? Ladies let me know what ya think on the ending considering we don't see or talk to each other much right now. Really I think there can be pros and cons and it may be gamble one way or the other, however Glam referenced the movie Fireproof where they were talking about going all out.

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Glam,

If I knew 100% she was I wouldn't confront her or her parents, do things like this eventually come out even if you remained silent?

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I have no idea Sooners. I am still waiting after 2 years for many unanswered questions, but I do know that as time passes I would rather restore my m than get the answers.

I feel with God's help anything is possible.


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Sooners I am sure I am in the minority, but I still say go all out and sign it with love. The way I feel now, even if h was not making progress towards home I am NOT going to hold back on how I feel.

When/if you see that movie this all might just make more sense.


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Sooners, I agree with glam. Go ahead and sign "Love, Steven" since this is a special occasion.

All the best with the birthday.


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PH & Glam,

Thank you for your answers and support.

Oh yeah I had one last idea, thought about getting a gift certificate to one of those nail and massage therapy places and putting it in with the card, but I didn't know if that and the flowers might be over doing right now? Or just the flowers for now. I would appreciate some feed back.

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Me personally think it's a nice idea, but what I would do is save that for another time. If you see your w looking tired or if she ever mentions that she is exhausted you could always spring it on her in the future like w you have been so busy working so hard I wanted to you go have fun at the salon.

Nice thinking Sooners but save it for later and suprise her not because it's a special day but just because.


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Hey Glam,

Thanks for replying I wasn't sure, but was thinking it my be just a touch to much for now so I'll just do the flowers for now.

Anyway how are you doing Glam, sometimes I think I rattle on and on about myself.

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I am doing fine Sooners thanks for asking. Life would be grand if h moved home, but I am thinking that maybe I am just too focused on that end result.

I am trying to be content for now. Need to go to God for prayer and get my strength from him.


Me 50
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M 12
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H moved out 8/2006
H moved home 1/2007 for 3 weeks
H moved home 5/2011 for good

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