I'm sorry if I seem judgemental. I'm the last person who should judge. I got frustrated with you. I felt like you weren't hearing anyone. Reread what Karen wrote. If I had more tact, maybe it would have sounded more like what she said. I know where you are at because I have been there. I even said all the things that you are saying about it being "group things", just flirting and having fun, not letting it get anywhere...I'm telling you that is where it all starts.
I'm always listening. I didnt' leave ya. Just had to take a step back for awhile and just keep with my own thread for a bit. I'm always checking on you, though.
Tom is right that you should focus on you....without dating.
The moral topic got brought up because of the religious writings I posted which Tom called "crap". What was basically said in that writing was what I wanted to get across to you...the hows and whys of seeking happiness. Seeking attention from other ladies will maybe cause you happiness, there will always be things out there that may give you that happiness you seek...but if you are always seeking happiness without consideration of what is morally right, sins will undoubtedly look very inviting to you. It is a sin to look for happiness from other women outside of your marriage. Group outings, etc...yeah yeah....you know you are flirting and they are with you...so the whole "group outings" thing isn't true anymore.
You see?
Anyway....think about how you can make her FEEL her choice of having those kiddos part time. That is where you may see more results with your marriage. Meanwhile, be a good man and find what is inside of you and work on yourself.
