lwb, how are you, I hope everything is going great for you any more 5K runs lately, I'm hanging in there hope you are to, is this st louis weather crazy or what, one day summer next day its fall

yenko69: first thank you for your comments, I'm confused I read some of your post, now remember I'm a old stuborn Germay but whats going on, here are some quotes from you "I gave her a couple hugs. I hope you are feeling better I worry about you"
and I gave some hugs for support" not to be disrespectful son, but what are you trying to accomplish. Do you want to be her friend, have you read Michelle's book, look at the 180 section. It sounds like you have a chance to save your M. Possibly go dark on her, try something, and if that doesn't work try something else but don't put up with her cheating on you and your being so nice to her. She is taking advantage of your good nature. She is a cake eater, she can do what she wants and your friendly to her.

Sorry son, I call it as I see it, I'm not trying to upset you

Karen, hi, how is everything going, I agree, they cannot think of a decent excuse, yes my W doesn't love me either so its ok, NOT - I would have respected her more if she sat down and talked to me about what she was feeling, cheating is one thing and lying is another. Both are unacceptable

So I

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming

M45
W41
M10.75 years
D9, D6, D6, S5
OM confirmed 12/07 merry christmas to me
WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
W files for D 07/18/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never