Please help me to not give up............

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Thanks again TD. Yes, she is very bitter and resentful, and I have no doubt where that comes from, and she may have every right to feel the way that she does. Sorry that the HS song happened to you too. Just feels like she has had an emotion-bypass operation, and is either oblivious to me hurt, or is just past caring anymore.

I see the "friends" thing as good too, and the no D talk. Not too sure about OM, but it's beyond my influence in any case. I need to let that go. I get the consistency thing, and I'm nowhere near that yet. I need to get to the point that I am strong and my self esteem has risen above the zero point. Will keep focusing on the boys too, and I must hold onto and develop that realtionship at all costs.

I guess what you're saying is that if I don't change the home/work situation then it's more of the same behaviours, which as you rightly say, have not worked.

Like the "better person" thing, and that makes absolute sense. Thanks.
See-sawing on the give up/ keep going thing. I've got to give this some more time.