For the Guy with Kids and a WW 10

[hopeful4her]

karen, I think that in your case, you have come to the realization that your H is not someone you would even want to consider being with anymore.

I too, need to GAL. You know that I tried the jokey, buddy buddy thing with my wife. She only took advantage of it and lived the best of both worlds. Your right, what they are doing is NOT fine. I have pulled myself away from her, but it really is hard. You can read it in my posts of course.

Like dub told me, right now I need to be doing what I'm doing. When and if D papers happen, then I have to change my strategy and decide then what kind of relationship we'll have. Until then, this is the only way to let her miss me. My last hope. I will continue to treat her nicely when we see or talk to each other, but not going to be her buddy, no matter how much I want that.

I can only think that that is what I was trying to do(buddy buddy) because, in my mind, the marriage was over and I was already trying to establish our after marriage relationship. I kept telling her that I wasn't fighting for our marriage anymore, but just being friendly to each other.

And then who knows where it could have led. But I AM fighting for our marriage still, even though she may not realize it. Hell, I don't think I realized it. I will keep trying until she initiates the D.