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it's weird...but its hard for me to not htink that i'm starting all over again....except, i know what works...

is that true?


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"Tommorrow there'll be sunshine, and all this darkness past..."
-Bruce Springsteen Land of Hope and Dreams

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Actually that is a pretty good way to look at it.....in your complete sitch....put the past behind you....move forward


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i have loads on information about my W......from the 13 years we've been together.....i just keep forgetting to use it...LOL....


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I think it was Bill that had me thinking that way a while ago, but I have been off track.

The old marriage and relationship is gone, at least in our spouses mind. You are starting fresh and new, with the intentions being to have them fall in love with the new person that you have become. The history and familiarity is still there, so we have some advantage.


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"....put the past behind you....move forward."

This is interesting. Back in the day, when I was still talking to my H, LOL, I said he seemed like a stranger to me. And, I asked him something about, didn't he feel the same way about me? Or, something along those lines.

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Hmm....starting all over again?

Well, wouldn't it be nice if we could approach each day as a new beginning. Maybe even "think with the mind of a beginner" each day?

But with the added bonus of knowing now what we didn't know then.

Sheesh...how many times have I heard someone say offhand how nice it would be to go back and do high school again knowing what we know now as adults.

Theoretically it would mean that we would do it RIGHT this time. That we would soak every ounce of worth and value out of that experience. That we would ask out the crush this time. That we would step in and stop the bully this time. That we wouldn't be afraid to take a chance on the tough class that we passed on last time.

You're not a beginner Neil.

You've learned and you've become smarter about how to take care of YOU while you're trying to take care of your family.

You've learned that you can't control how your wife responds to you.

You've learned that becoming a better man, a better father, a better husband is worth every single ounce of effort it requires.

You've learned that when you are confident and secure in who YOU are, your wife notices. Sometimes when she notices it is a good response, and sometimes it causes her to withdraw for some reason.

So you've learned not to ANTICIPATE or EXPECT specific responses from her, knowing instead to trust yourself and go with the flow.


Here's to all of us approaching each day with the beginners mindset:

- I CAN do this
- I WILL do this
- My marriage is WORTH however hard this might be
- I won't be misled by her words at all, and rarely by her actions
- I KNOW my spouse still has love for me in his/her heart, and becoming the STRONG me is my best chance to help him/her rediscover it


...rather than allow the weariness of weeks and months and sometimes years, beating us down into submission.


And yet, at the same time, here's to all of us LEARNING our lessons and becoming more efficient at doing the things we need to do. To becoming less prone to slipping into old habits.


Strength and honor.


Blessings,

Bill


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"...with the intentions being, to have them fall in love with the new person that you have become. The history and familiarity is still there, so we have some advantage."

I love this advice. Thank you.
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"Strength and honor."

Wow! And wisdom.

Thank you for that.

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Strength and honor.


Bill you rock. I think i said that the other day.....seriously. LOL

Maximus....whatever his full name is...

Russell Crowe.

Gladiator

i show that movie when i teach Rome.....

i also like to live by these words (now, do i all the time, no....LOL...but i shoot for them all the time)

Lights out tonight
trouble in the heartland
Got a head-on collision
smashin' in my guts, man
I'm caught in a cross fire
that I don't understand
But there's one thing I know for sure girl
I don't give a damn
For the same old played out scenes
I don't give a damn
For just the in betweens
Honey, I want the heart, I want the soul
I want control right now
talk about a dream
Try to make it real
you wake up in the night
With a fear so real
Spend your life waiting
for a moment that just don't come
Well, don't waste your time waiting


Badlands, you gotta live it everyday
Let the broken hearts stand
As the price you've gotta pay
We'll keep pushin' till it's understood
and these badlands start treating us good

Workin' in the fields
till you get your back burned
Workin' 'neath the wheel
till you get your facts learned
Baby I got my facts
learned real good right now
You better get it straight darling
Poor man wanna be rich,
rich man wanna be king
And a king ain't satisfied
till he rules everything
I wanna go out tonight,
I wanna find out what I got
Well I believe in the love that you gave me

I believe in the love that you gave me
I believe in the faith that could save me
I believe in the hope
and I pray that some day
It may raise me above these

Badlands, you gotta live it everyday
Let the broken hearts stand
As the price you've gotta pay
We'll keep pushin' till it's understood
and these badlands start treating us good

mmmmmmmm, mmmmm, mmmmmm

For the ones who had a notion,
a notion deep inside
That it ain't no sin
to be glad you're alive
I wanna find one face
that ain't looking through me
I wanna find one place,
I wanna spit in the face of these badlands

Badlands, you gotta live it everyday
Let the broken hearts stand
As the price you've gotta pay
We'll keep pushin' till it's understood
and these badlands start treating us good


personally, i think this is springsteen's best song. period.


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Sep legally: 6/18/08

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Along with "Thunder Road," I agree. It's also Miami Steve's best vocal performance, IMHO.

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