Karen, W doesn't know what she is talking about, she is just upset, we both care about the church, but she has broken away and the guilt is eating at her, so she complains.

I'm with you, looking forward to moving on with my life, lucky guy who puts that spark in your eye and jump in your step, he will be a very lucky person.

H4H, I have been following your post, sorry I haven't posted, was going to today but something came up, you are in the exact same position I'm in, willing able and ready (I don't know if I'm ready - been lied to toooo much) but our W's are not, they want to do their own thing. Everyone says when my W crashes, she'll be looking for me. I think you are more of a candidate to have your W come running back to you and ask you to forgive her.

The problem is when, how long do you wait, can you wait, should you wait, why should you wait, Your in the hardest part of this whole crazy mess, the unknown, the confusion, the wondering.

Keep your head up and when the time comes to move on, you will know

Best wishes H4H and Karen - good night and

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming

M45
W41
M10.75 years
D9, D6, D6, S5
OM confirmed 12/07 merry christmas to me
WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
W files for D 07/18/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never