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S12 called H to tell him about new turtle. Asked to speak to me. Confirmed his days next week with the kids. I said I guess. Then he briefly talked about the turtle, I kept it light. Asked if he wanted to speak to S again, said no. Said ok bye. Did ask him where he was as it was echoing, said in the tv room at home. Oh, told him I paid the babysitter, he can pay her next week and we would be even. But tried to keep it brief, light and to the point then end it.