lan, When i moved out, D7 moved in the bed.....she has never really relinquished it. Also, W is not in the mood to have me "all over" her. Much like you I can never get enough and need to slow down......W has her own idea on how to accomplish this and is using D7 as a deterent. Don't know if that makes any sense. fb2, W's business (now that she is no longer hooked up with her old partner) is doing OK. We are working on a few things together and i am trying to help out with the "$" side. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that what comes in has to be equal or hopefully greater than what goes out. Unfortunatelly, my W has alot of qualities but she can not seem to grab that rather elementary concept in business or in our personal life. the house has been refinaced and we are in the process of making some improvements on the home ($$$$). I still have access to the apt.....hopefully I will not need it. K, Have yourself a nice vacation....you deserve it. Don't try to hard to keep in touch...perhaps a few days of going dark or not reading about all our problems would be beneficial. I will try ot remain positive and be patient.....I have to admit that it has been difficult lately.