If only everyone on this forum could get their spouse to Retrouvaille............the results and action that everyone is looking for would happen....instead of this "wait it out" stuff. There would still be this withdrawal and "coming to terms", but there would also be growth within the marriage and hope when you both feel hopeless. Take a look at the website, Artteach. BTW, I was a teacher for 8 years, I know about liking to talk.