HI Brian...it's been awhile, but always worth the wait.!

I also get the sense that CJ isn't as "sorry" for the A as I'd like him to be!!! Sometimes I wonder if he really IS sorry, although he did say so a long time ago.

I guess it would help me to hear it more often, when memories get to me etc. "I'm sorry I caused you so much pain...I'm sorry I was so selfish...I'm sooo sorry I lied to you and betrayed your trust!"

Oh to hear those words! sigh....

I have some trouble with your W's attitude toward the A. Sorry it hurt you, but not sorry it Happened??? WHAT? That's the moral reasoning of a 4-6 year-old, "it's only wrong if you get caught!"

No kidding you haven't "forgiven" yet! BTW I haven't uttered those words yet either. Like LL? Jeannine? said, we can't force that "gift" on ourselves when we're not ready!

And to hear she's been in touch as recently as a month ago!!! Oh, Brian, if I found out CJ was still e-mailing or calling OW.... ...especially after he PROMISED to tell even if she just called here, promised NOT EVER to pick up.

Geez now perhaps I know why I rarely bring up OR discussions, maybe I don't want to really hear how CJ feels! ...that's not so great, we're going to see our C in the next few weeks for a "tune up".

Brian, would you say that prior to the A you were the one with more control in your M? I'm just wondering if your W is (perhaps unconsciously) NOT admitting to wrong-doing, not humbling herself, not apologizing because now the balance is tipped in HER favour and she wants to keep you on your toes??? Like the "trying to" comment?

Keep on keepin' on

Shiny