Though I started this for a little lighthearted fun I see it moves on.

The situation I spoke of I've noticed over the years. Many other men spoke of it. As far as C2H's post it is wonderfully idealistic and if one was able to sustain that level of dedication to another i would imagine very successful.

I loved the dinner topic an how the subject was raised.
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What women want
If one wants good info they must ask questions and if you are not getting the answers you need to ask better questions and look at the person giving the answers. The onus is on the person requesting the info.

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It can't be sustained because real life gets in the way. The bills have to be paid. Kids need to be fed, etc.

I recall being tapped to work long hours followed by longer hours, going to kids school functions that lasted til 11 then up at 4:30 to work more. I recall there simply was not enough to go around. Often what suffered was either any volunteer work or the relationship with your spouse and I chose to sacrifice the latter. Lives were saved lives were damaged.

When I time to think and am not comotose from being outside all day I can concentrate on poetry and other pursuits on the soft side but as the previous poster it simply cannot be maintained. If I can find a formula to extend the mental energy to maintain the romance and giving during the time one is stressed I'd do it. Even if it is only to make the ladies day. We will find that formula.

It is only my true ambition to show you ladies the true wonderment I hold in the light of your absolute grace and beauty. \:\)

It is a matter of Priorities and being smart with your efforts.

"All I want is a weeks pay for a day's work"
Steve Martin