You sure have mellowed out since the old days. You and I were pretty angry back then. I am not sure anything we do or don't do actually makes a BIG difference in all of this. Let me say that I understand what you are feeling and I hope your next two weeks with the kids will alleviate a little of your "nostalgia". From a DB standpoint, you are doing way too much pursuing (but who has not). I know it can get frustrating when you are using a strategy and you get little or no results. However, one thing I learned....just because it does not appear like you are making progress it does not mean that you are not. WAS tend to hide what they are going through behind closed doors. So what John....what does that do for me? Well, I think you really need to concentrate on the friendship angle. I think she pretty much spelled it out for you. Concentrate on friendship and attack her with her LL. Stop the I miss yous and ILYs immediatelly. Finally, you have to try harder to get her out of your mind (AKA GAL). This was very difficult for me as well. If I look back at my sitch, I could now see that she changed slowly back to normal....maybe because she saw me detaching or maybe because she brokeup with her boyfriend (I will never know for sure). In your case is your WAS still acting the same way as she did in and around the Bomb time? J210
