NTE there is a difference between a guy who is trying to be unselfish in bed, and a guy who gauges his own success on whether or not he delivers an O to a woman in a certain way.

The first type of guy, if he is truly unselfish, will realize immediately that the woman has to be able to assist him in figuring out how to help her reach an O, and he will also realize that if it doesn't work, he needs to take the pressure off of that for the moment and move on to something else. This is TRULY unselfish.

The second type of guy, and I have had them, will try to tell YOU how you are not "normal" and that "every other woman he has been with has been able to O from intercourse alone, so what is wrong with YOU". Trust me, this is not unselfishly trying to make her O.

DQ