Phil there used to be another poster on these boards that used the history of the church to tell me how he knew there was NO GOD and instead, that he was just a figment of man's diabolical imagination created along with the bible as a means to control the people.

But all I know is what I know.

Grace and mercy.

Facts that you can spout on the day you're standing in front of Him are worthless.

Humility, submission and repentance are everything.

In my opinion.

And my opinion was born out of nothing more than my often repeated experiences of being humbled, broken, corrected and blessed by and under His hand more times than I care to count, definitely more times than I could have ever hoped for and never, ever even one time deserved.

So you'll just have to take it for whatever it's worth and if that is nothing, that's perfectly okay with me.