If I may add my opinion, I would think giving her money, giving her a pedicure, massage, whatever at this point is over the top.

Not knowing your W at all, but thinking about it, those just scream desperation to me. The coffee....that was no big deal. Who can't afford .79? OK, don't answer that! \:\)

What I'm getting at is giving her things, although an action, don't really add up to what she wants from you. Perhaps this is a LL for her, and I don't mean to sound crass, but she isn't in love with you like that right now.

Out of the suggestions, taking the kids is a good idea. You can give her something by taking something away for a little while. She can relax, and enjoy that you did something nice without seeming desperate to shower her with awkward gifts.

Just keep it simple, low-key, and be happy and nice doing it. Most importantly, make sure whatever you decide to do is genuine, and not laced with expectations.

I'm jealous of the wonderful folks you have posting here, Neil. Could I request any of you to jump on my thread, as well? I have a few regulars, but the folks here seem to catch up faster! I would appreciate it \:\)


Me: 30
W: 27
Married: 9/2007
ILUBNILWU: 1/2008
W moved out 5/24/2008
W suicide 8/25/2009