i'm not going to mention the R yet. I appreciate the ideas Mark, about suggesting to her that we talk to our pastor. I'm going to save that for when the time is right. yes i get desperate, yes I get needy, but I haven't showed it to her in a LONG time. it's been 5 or 6 weeks; too early.
2. Your relationship with your wife is over when YOU say it is over ----MarkF