Originally Posted By: buster80
help me save her from herself !


You can never save anyone from themselves, they have to make that choice on their own. Anything you say or do to try and convince her otherwise will most likely backfire. Has any of the trying to convince her (either you, the pastor or anyone else) worked so far? No. If it's not working why keep repeating it? Do you think she wants to hear this stuff over and over. If anything that's definitely going to drive her away.

The more you try to control things, and from your words and actions it sounds like you are frantically trying to figure out how to change her mind, the more she's going to want to leave. It's like you are searching for some needle in a hay stack... the words that are going to change her mind, the actions you can do to change things... i.e. telling her how you are playing guitar, how you are doing this, or that... quite honestly I doubt she cares what you are doing. She's thinking about her own life and her own self, etc... which means a better approach would be to let her talk about herself and you just listen, ask questions, try to create a situation where she enjoys talking to you. Make yourself valuable to her. That will probably have more effect than trying to tell her and convince her about all the great changes you are doing. That's like someone trying to sell you a car. It's just annoying. WAS can see though that,


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