but as for everything mark said, her parents and friends aren't going to butt in. even if they would, and i tried to tell her parents to step in, they might think i am trying to tell them what to do. besides if i talked to the couple she's living with, they obviously don't want her to stop hanging out with them, they won't tell her to make things work with me, or that the OM is not allowed in their new home.
2. Your relationship with your wife is over when YOU say it is over ----MarkF