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#152870 06/30/03 12:34 PM
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I know what happens! You are young, beautiful, and have two lovely children. Your H would nuts not to be there. When our kids were young, we made it work. Now they are older, W has no reason to be here! Besides, she is with Sir Pantsalot!



oh tony you don't get it do you...I was a young beautiful woman with two lovely babies when h left...those are not the reasons that h came home...

if you wish to go from dark to angry with your w you will be bitter and angry forver! it's not going to work tony and it will only serve to get you nowhere...
she emails you all the time...and you ignore her...why do you think she does that? if she has no reason to? you don't get it tony and at this point I doubt you ever will.

Shower the People"
James Taylor

You can play the game and you can act out the part
Though you know it wasn't written for you
But tell me, how can you stand there with your broken heart
Ashamed of playing the fool
One thing can lead to another; it doesn't take any sacrifice
Oh, father and mother, sister and brother
if it feels nice, don't think twice

Just shower the people you love with love
Show them the way that you feel
Things are gonna work out fine if you only will
Shower the people you love with love
Show them the way you feel
Things are gonna be much better if you only will

You can run but you cannot hide
This is widely known
And what you plan to do with your foolish pride
When you're all by yourself alone
Once you tell somebody the way that you feel
You can feel it beginning to ease
I think it's true what they say about the squeaky wheel
Always getting the grease.

Better to shower the people you love with love
Show them the way that you feel
Things are gonna be just fine if you only will
Shower the people you love with love
Show them the way that you feel
Things are gonna be much better if you only will

Shower the people you love with love
Show them the way that you feel

You'll feel better right away
Don't take much to do
Sell you pride
They say in every life
They say the rain must fall
Just like pouring rain
Make it rain
Make it rain
Love, love, love is sunshine.
Oh yes
Make it rain
Love, love, love is sunshine
Yeah, all right
Everybody, everybody
Shower the people you love with love

LL

#152871 06/30/03 12:57 PM
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the concert was awesome!

we had a long ride to get there and did get stuck in traffic but we did ok.

we talked alot on the ride...started talking about the 4th of july who's comming etc. which led to talking about my brothers sit (divorced...w cheated...gave him the ilynilwy...2kids that were then 4yr g and 4month boy) which led to talking about my parents d...which led to love languages talk etc...

which led to my saying to h..."i do love you you know" to which h replied...."i know you do, and I hope you know that I love you too"

my parents d still effects me...maybe it always will I don't know...my brothers d effects me too but not as much...h tries to empathise but really can't wants me to find some peace with it...I will someday.

so at the concert my emotions were already running a tad high...and then the son shed a little light was sung and the flood of tears came....h was very comforting...hugging me rubbing my back....

ok ok so I drank too much wine...but we had a really really good night.

then I had a weird dream and I don't know what to make of it if anything at all...I'll figure it out and I'm sure there'll be some lightbulb moment over the next day or so.

somethings comming and I feel it's more possitive.

Shed a Little Light"
James Taylor

Let us turn our thoughts today
To Martin Luther King
And recognize that there are ties between us
All men and women
Living on the Earth
Ties of hope and love
Sister and brotherhood
That we are bound together
In our desire to see the world become
A place in which our children
Can grow free and strong
We are bound together
By the task that stands before us
And the road that lies ahead
We are bound and we are bound

There is a feeling like the clenching of a fist
There is a hunger in the center of the chest
There is a passage through the darkness and the mist
And though the body sleeps the heart will never rest

(Chorus)
Shed a little light, oh Lord
So that we can see
Just a little light, oh Lord
Wanna stand it on up
Stand it on up, oh Lord
Wanna walk it on down
Shed a little light, oh Lord

Can't get no light from the dollar bill
Don't give me no light from a TV screen
When I open my eyes
I wanna drink my fill
From the well on the hill

(Do you know what I mean?)
- Chorus -

There is a feeling like the clenching of a fist
There is a hunger in the center of the chest
There is a passage through the darkness and the mist
And though the body sleeps the heart will never rest

Oh, Let us turn our thoughts today
To Martin Luther King
And recognize that there are ties between us
All men and women
Living on the Earth
Ties of hope and love
Sister and brotherhood

LL

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LL,

I am not angry at W! I just am not going to lose everything we have worked so hard for over the years because she fell in love with someone else. When the D hearings start, I am going to fight for every penny like a madman! It has nothing to do with anger! Well maybe it does, she wants D, she can have it!

Latest e-mail from W
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A professor stood before his Philosophy 101 class and had some items in front of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up the very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls. He then asked the students if the jar was full? They agreed it was.

So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open areas between the golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They agreed it was.

The professor picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He then once more asked if the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous --- yes.

The professor then produced two cans of beer from under the table and proceeded to pour the entire contents into the jar effectively filling the empty space between the sand. The students laughed.

"Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided, " I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life".

"The golf balls are the important things ---- your family, your wife/husband, your health, your children, your friends, your favorite passions --- things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full". "The pebbles are the other things that matter, like your job, your house, your car. The sand is everything else -- the small stuff."

"If you put the sand into the jar first", he continued, "there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls. The same goes for your life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you".

"Pay attention to the things that are important to your happiness. Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your wife/husband out dancing. Play another 18. There will always be time to go to work, clean the house, give a dinner party and fix the disposal. Take care of the golf balls first. --- The things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand."

One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the beer represented. The professor smiled, "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you that no matter how full your life may seem, there is always room for a couple of beers."


WTF????????????HAT THE HELL IS SHE THINKING!

James Taylor!
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and you need a helping hand
and nothing whoa nothing is going right.
Close your eyes and think of me
and soon I will be there
to brighten up even your darkest nights.

You just call out my name
and you know whereever I am
I'll come running oh yeah baby
to see you again.
Winter spring summer or fall
all you have to do is call
and I'll be there yeah yeah yeah.
You've got a friend.

If the sky above you
should turn dark and full of clouds
and that old north wind should begin to blow
Keep your head together and call my name out loud
and soon I will be knocking upon your door.
You just call out my name and you know where ever I am
I'll come running to see you again.
Winter, spring, summer or fall
all you got to do is call
and I'll be there, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, ain't it good to know that you've got a friend?
People can be so cold.
They'll hurt you and desert you.
Well they'll take your soul if you let them.
Oh yeah, but don't you let them.

You just call out my name and you know wherever I am
I'll come running to see you again.
Oh babe, don't you know that,
Winter spring summer or fall,
Hey now, all you've got to do is call.
Lord, I'll be there, yes I will.
You've got a friend.
You've got a friend.
Ain't it good to know you've got a friend.
Ain't it good to know you've got a friend.
You've got a friend.



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WTF????????????HAT THE HELL IS SHE THINKING!


tony tony tony,

you don't get it....you don't get it at all!!! it seems there is a constant theme in the emails your w is sending you (at least those that you have shared) it's up to you to decide what's important to you golf balls or sand?


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James Taylor!


yes james taylor!! I like that song too...infact I like them all...do you realize you do have a friend that will always be there? always! you just don't want to go there....I'm not suggesting you become some holy roller tony...but it may not be a bad idea to spend some of those lonely sundays at mass...I went almost every sunday during my seperation...I cried the first few times I was there...but for the first time I actually listend..I heard what they were preaching about those days...it was as if the scriptures for that day were written just for me...they knew I was comming...go and see if there's anything there for you tony...it can't hurt and it's only an hour anyway.

LL

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LL,

Of course the golf balls are more important to me NOW! But maybe they weren't prior to this. I see the same theme you do, but she lives 400 miles away w/OG, and loving it.

You and I look at it two different ways. You think she is trying to tell me something I should see as positive. I see that she is telling me the reason she left me and rubbing my face in it!


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#152875 06/30/03 02:47 PM
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I see the same theme you do, but she lives 400 miles away w/OG, and loving it.


really? then why is she sending you e-mails all the time?????

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You and I look at it two different ways. You think she is trying to tell me something I should see as positive. I see that she is telling me the reason she left me and rubbing my face in it!


I think you are wrong.

LL

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"I think you are wrong."

Tell that to the Judge in 10 days!

Why are we doing this on your thread, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING

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#152877 06/30/03 02:59 PM
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Why are we doing this on your thread, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING


because you are not posting on yours...and here is where you are...does it matter that it's my thread??

I don't think so....infact have you not noticed that when you start to post about your sit on my thread you seem to be visited by others on your own?

you also seem to use a different tone when posting on my thread about your sit then you do on your own...on your own you are free to be angry and show it...yes tony you are angry...at yourself...stop it now....being angry isn't going to get you anwhere...it's never too late to change for yourself! make the golf balls important...look forward to the reuinion....there will be other golf balls there besides w.

LL

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Hi..LL, I was coming here to say hi to ya..you have grown so much the past few months..you have found a new peace and I take it you go to church..it is wonderful to hear that you have forgiven your h and yourself...does not mean there are not rough patches..but I truly believe the forgiveness is one of the important beginings to healing.

Now if Tony could just see it..he really is in need of something, but not sure what that is..Tony..if you are here..I think your w is trying to reach out to you..if you treat her like you have been talking, well..what can I say..maybe she had a vey good reason for walking in the first place..you have learned what you did wrong the first time, then start now with the new you...be civil to her..e-mail her back thanking her for the jokes..ask how she's doing..boy oh boy what I would not give to have my h email me with a joke..oh we are doing pretty good..but he has not really made any of the first moves..TONY your wife is..it's your choice..until you get rid of the anger and attitude and try anad forgive your w, you are going to be spinning in circles.

Sorry, LL, I just had to vent to Tony.

We are having a 4th picnic too..h seems excited..I am going to ask him to help some too!!A new for me..but last time we had people over I did and he really helped.Sad to think that for 23 years I felt like I had to do it all..

See ya
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Hi LL, this IS still your place, right?

Shiny

P.S. I coulda told 'ya...wine and James Taylor? Emotions already running high? Pent up feelings? Ahhhh!!!!

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