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Jeff: I had to step away several times, because she started talking about our R telling me she was sorry for hurting me, I told her I don't want to hear that, she said it so many times it doesn't mean anything.

I kind of put this out of my mind: This is what I heard over the course of several months from W:

"The kids are driving me crazy"
"The kids don't listen to me"
"I don't want to yell at the kids anymore like a crazy person"
"You were a great husband and father"
"You did everything you could"
"I need my own space that no one messes up (kids)"
"It's not about OM"
"I don't love you"
"I'm not attracted to you"
"I found myself and being a W and stay at home mom isn't it"
"I feel like running out and screaming after a day with the kids"

On Saturday the only reason W gave for the D was our relationship, not the kids, not the OM, not I found myself nothing but our relationship with each other.

I didn't respons to this, this is one of the times I had to step away. I was always willing to work with W if she gave up OM, and she knows this

I think karen posted this about her H: "delusional"

I think this applies to my W also

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M10 3/4 years
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WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never

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Jeff,

Did you point out this discrepancy to your wife?

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I started to: saying, OK its not about the kids OM or finding yourself, I didn't pursue it farther, I just stepped out of the room for a minute.

Reading everyones post here, has helped me understand that W is in her own little world, she is delusional. She hasn't come down to earth yet, when she wakes up I want to be as far away from her as possible.

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OM confirmed 12/07 merry christmas to me
WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never

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So when does school start? Maybe that will get your W thinking.

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Hey Kat, they start middle of August, hopefully, D paperwork is signed by her by then, so she cannot flip on me when she wakes up from her dream

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Jeff,

I hear your anger every time you write. I wish I could do something for both of you.

(((hugs)))

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Originally Posted By: whatdidido
Jeff,

I hear your anger every time you write. I wish I could do something for both of you.

(((hugs)))
Yeah, wdid, I think Jeff's sig is pretty clear about that (although funny) with the Date I'll forgive W for A = never

Jeff, I do hope you will eventually get over the anger and work on forgiving your W a little, not for her (believe me I don't care about her) but for you, b/c I think it's unhealthy mentally and physically to have that kind of anger/non-forgiving attitude toward anyone. But I do think that everything takes time and hopefully with time that will happen for you. Believe me I know when they're thick in the fog and delusion (I think that was me) that it's hard and when they're around a lot, when you start seeing her less when school starts I think that will be really good for you too! ((((Jeff))))


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Could our Karen really have written that? Not a single statement with a question mark in sight? Hope that made you smile...and Karen you know I love you and your question marks.

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whatdidido: I hear your anger every time you write. I wish I could do something for both of you.


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Karen: Jeff, I do hope you will eventually get over the anger and work on forgiving your W a little, not for her (believe me I don't care about her) but for you


Hey Ladies, thank you for everything, I know I have to get over my anger. I'm sooo friendly to anyone and everyone I meet, but put my W within sight and my blood starts to boil.

They say time heals all wounds, I'm so stubborn, I truley believe I will never forgive my W for what she has done. I'll move on with my life with my kids and life will be great, I'll find love again but I will never forgive her, ever.

neighbor talking to W and W said he hates me, its true, I worked so hard at our M and did anything and everything to make W happy and our M work. It got to the point that W was taking advantage of me, she wanted to go out and have some time to herself, and I said I understand, I'll take care of everything have fun.

you were my friend and lover
but friends don't treat each other
like you treated me.
That was your decision
and there was nothing I could do
nothing I could do to make you happy
I tried as hard as I could
but it wasn't enough and you gave up
the only thing left is to say goodbye
good bye old friend
good bye.


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D9, D6, D6, S5
OM confirmed 12/07 merry christmas to me
WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never

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Hey kat,

Nice to hear from you, same goes for Karen and whatdidido

Glad to hear from you whatdidido, HOPE, lucky you, I know you have worked hard for HOPE, we are all behind you, wishing that everything works out for you, wishing you the best, we really do.

Good night ladies, I have a lot of work to do before bed.
sweetdreams - thank you again for everything.

M45
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M10 3/4 years
D9, D6, D6, S5
OM confirmed 12/07 merry christmas to me
WAM (Walk Away Mom) 05/31/08
Date I'll forgive W for A = never

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