Breton, if you want to stand for your marriage until you die, that's your business and I wish you the very best in getting what you want. I do think that you should prepare yourself for the fact that it might not happen. I think sometimes you reach for things to give you hope to keep on fighting, and I understand that, don't think I am putting you down or making fun of you for doing that. I think its admirable that you would have that kind of committment to your H and personally I think he is a fool for doing what he is doing. Remember this, you or anyone else cannot make anyone do anything, they must want to do something for themselves. With that being said, I think your H's course is obvious and you are going to have to let him run it. Will it be successfull? Well, to share some more stats with you, probably not. Looking at the D's for 2nd marriages, its above 60% nationwide. The success rate for affair based marriages is less than 5%. Is the D or failure of that relationship immediate? Sometimes yes, often times No, but it does happen in the MAJORITY of the cases. In saying this, does the WAS try to return to his or her former spouse? Probably not, why you ask. People aren't going to admit they have done wrong, that's just the way we are wired for the most part. I have personally seen this one too many times, they would rather live miserable and try to make people think they made the right choices all along. Sad thing is, people in general could care less.