Pup and H4U

First, thanks for the replies. I am exhausted this morning, so not sure I can fill in all details at once.

After I wrote the post above (last night even though it didn't make it on until this morning), WW and I had a 3 hour conv. (Yes Puppy, I know you warned me about more 3 hour talks, but I was caught). I wasn't needy, clingy or any of that. But we did talk, sometimes about R and sometimes about the possibility of D.

I still have not, nor do I have any intention of agreeing to D. It became clear that WW thinks that things will stay the same for her, at least til D10 is done elementary school. AND that we can keep our vacation property and split use of it. The financial aspect of where we are has not yet been discussed and she doesn't get it. Then she shuts down if she is challenged or if I say I cannot see how either of us can stay in this house. She clearly doesn't get that part. She then tries to blame me saying that I will disrupt the kids lives so much... whatever.

WW pretty adamant that we are headed for D. Yet she still gets mad at stuff, argues, wants communication from me ("but don't think that will necessarily fix our marriage"). If the opposite of love is indifference, what do her reactions tell me?

Her telling the kids is upsetting, but at least I walked in at the start of the conv and was there for it. I had to leave and go get D16, so not sure what kind of spin was put on the rest of the conv. I will find out. WW says the K's will be fine - I ask if she is willing to gamble 3 lives on that possibility and she responds by saying she knows in her heart that things will be fine. Sorry, with all that is out there, I am not willing to agree to that gamble.

In direct answer to your questions, the K's do not know of the A. I hear you both and agree they (perhapes other than D10) should know. That is by far harder to get to than anything so far. The tears that S13 had last night make it that much harder. We (me and S13) are golfing again tonight - we will have a disc about things (likely not the A yet).

Anyway, I need to get to work. This will be a tough day to stay on task...


LIS

M45
WW 43
D17/S14/D11

ILYB Jan 08
PA Conf Feb 08
OMW / OM contacted
S Jan / 09

No one ever has, or ever will, escape the consequences of their actions.