braveheart, maybe I should have done that 3 years ago, or due to the fact he is allergic to dogs I should have bought a rottweiller some 15 years ago and let it lick him all over. No one can ever be told how much this man has changed, if I hadn't known him for so long I wouldnt believe it either, he is as they say the total opposite of what he was in every respect, Do they ever get some of their old personalities and caring ways back or do they just stay into the jerks they have become and just hope their past never re-enters their heads.