D12 sang two of her original songs - one real tearjerker about a child losing her father in a war called "Where's Daddy Gone?" and a jazz number called "When I'm Loving You". (She also has songs about writer's block schizophrenia, spousal abuse, and losing a child to suicide - don't ask me where she gets her material!).
It seems to me you're going down the right road as far as your D's musical interests.
As far as the recording issue, it's really not as super expensive as you think. Are you going to record her with a full band or will this just be a solo recording? Of course if you have a band you have to pay the musicians. That's something to factor in. And for shopping to publishers it's not really necissary to have a full band arrangement. If you're looking at giving stuff to publishers then realize that for the most part publishers will be looking to place the songs with other singers. So, really all they need is the basic form of the song with a piano/vocal or guitar/vocal recording.
Of course a full band recording sounds cooler and more "official". However, at her age, and with her work ethic..her best stuff is probably yet to come. So if you pop for a full band recording she may find that next year her writing has improved and then she'll want to record again.
Also, if you get serious about shopping her around make sure she can handle rejection and take it for what it is. That's not to say there's anything wrong with her but in this business once you commit yourself to trying to achieve higher levels of success, you'll hear no many times before you hear yes. It happens to everyone. Even the Beatles were turned down by label after label before somebody finally gave them a chance. So hopefully she realizes that and can handle it well. The music stuff is great but when you get the business side involved with it, things can get ugly.
Anyways, take it slow with her now. She's only 12 and her stuff will only get better. Keep her going and let her record, and take her as far as she's willing to go now, and as far as you're willing to let her go. But much like saving marriages...you've gotta be patient with these things.
A dream it's true
But I'd see it through
If I could be
Wasting my time with you
-Band:Phish Song:Waste
Thanks RJ Yeah, I'm in no rush to get her involved in the business end - my goal right now is just for her to get to learn that next step, how to go from a song to a recording.
We have one guy we know who has a home studio who is very cheap - $25 an hour including his time - and has a great rapport with my D. Has a decent weighted-key ketboard, although of course it isn't the same as a piano. He's a singer and songwriter too, has a little indie label, records a lot of gospel, soul, hip-hop stuff. Goos influence on my very Aryan daughter
But at the same time we have these two sound engineers who are friends of my daughter's voice teacher - aging hippies who did the sound for Rolling Stones tours and Ginger Baker recording drums in Africa, used to play with Joe Cocker in the 70's, etc.
They just finished putting in the whole sound system for a new performing arts complex at a college here. Spent two hours of their time free last week doing a scratch recording there to see what her material was like and how she sounded and they are drawing up a proposal for me. A nice piano and a fabulous mic - D12 sounds great even though it's just a rough recording. I don't know how expensive it will be to work with them, but they are great guys too and clearly very good as engineers.
May end up doing a little of both if these guys aren't too expensive.
Not really interested in getting involved with record companies at this point. Would like for D to have a little CD she could sell at gigs or maybe on the internet? D, being a performer, is a little reluctant to sell any of her songs to a publisher, but luckily the songs she's least attached to are probably the most commercially saleable. And she's so prolific, she has written about 30 good songs in the last 8 months.
Definitely just want this to be fun for D12 - not work. Just following her lead at this point.
Had a little scare here Saturday with S11 - he was at friend's house last night, they opened up some bottlerockets and lit the gunpowder - S11 has 2nd degree burns all over his face - singed his eyebrows and eyelashes - darned lucky it wasn't worse. He'll be okay, and I think he's learned his lesson. (Unfortunately, every time I look at him I think about the old Jim Carrey character of Fire Marshall Bill and have to suppress a giggle! I'm a bad mom, aren't I? )
Ellie, sorry about your son, hopefully, it was a hard lesson learned... and hopefully no scars. You have been helpful to me in the past... I don't want to drag up any bad feelings, but, I have attacks (a lot) of insecurity and just want to ask you about your H's A. While my H was at home he was having an A and I did not recognize it. I had no reason to not believe my H was telling me the truth, he had never lied to me before starting this A. Anyway, it is, of course, with a nurse in his office. She has since quit/been fired but the A continues. I found out 6/12. Will he ever quit with her? She has 4 kids, moved out of her home into an appt close to my home, her H is D her. I know she is after my H for the MD and $. He seems completely smitten with her, like there is no end in sight. He is still peeved at me about everything. My kids want nothing to do with him. OW's kids are going to the HS my kids go to now. I am sick of all of this. I am a smart, professional woman who has never wanted anything but to love and care for my family. H entered MLC in Nov and has been having A since. Any hope at all??
A couple of weeks ago he told me I should see his C. I called the C and haven't heard back from him. Don't know if anything will come of this.
I detach, detach have good days, then back to wondering what the H*LL am I doing.
Relax. Appreciate. Be calm. Laugh. Enjoy. Be secure. Be loving. Be loved. Don't personalize. Don't ASSume. Accept. Be grateful.
Quote: A couple of weeks ago he told me I should see his C. I called the C and haven't heard back from him. Don't know if anything will come of this.
Why do you think he said this? Was it because he has one of those horrible counselors who is telling him to "move on and find his happiness" or because he has a good one who is helping him with his depression and he thinks you could use the help too?
Have you given the OW's H the DR book? If HE could DB the OW back into her marriage, it would be easier for you to get your H back. Obviously, a woman who would leave her four kids is not someone who will make your H happy in the long run. But MLC, depression, whatever it is is a very powerful thing.
You don't have control over what he eventually decides to do. But you DO have control over who you become. The stronger you become, the more you become a vibrant and interesting person, the more beautiful, fit and strong you become - the better off you will be, whether he comes back or not. So right now is the time to focus on you. Do you need to lose weight, become more athletic, become more adventurous, loosen up? Do it. And don't let H think he has you - don't be available all the time, go out and be a little mysterious about where you are going, let him wonder if he's losing you.
I would love to give OW's H DR, but I am afraid it would backfire... and he would tell her I contacted him. But, I am hoping to run into him and get to talk to him. Would love for him to DB her back home.
I had a revelation yesterday and decided to "move on" emotionally. You are right. I am exploring new avenues, getting busier. I look good, have lost a lot of weight and am body for lifing on the weights. I am becoming much less available because I am getting so busy. You are right, I am a better person for it, whether he comes around or not. I told my kids we will be fine, we will have fun, we are the three muskateers. They don't respect him and want nothing to do with him, unfortunately. If he chooses this life, fine, he will have to play the cards he's dealt himself. We will all be okay, without regrets and with our morals and character intact. Thanks a bunch for your post.
Relax. Appreciate. Be calm. Laugh. Enjoy. Be secure. Be loving. Be loved. Don't personalize. Don't ASSume. Accept. Be grateful.
Hi all - will be leaving tomorrow for a weekend away - heading to H's grandparents' 70th wedding anniversary! Wish me luck dealing with my BB withdrawal!