I agree with your comment that if it was really OVER i wouldn't get a rise out of her. This is exactly the light at the end of tunnel that I believe I can find. I don't want to risk killing any and all possible hope of salvaging the remnants of our marriage and building a better one that works for us. W and OM are really close. she is (as far I know, and I'm a good snooper) she only maintain verbal contact, not in person (unless he's at a bar and she winds up there). I know, I know, I don't need rose colored glasses. I love her so much. I did send flowers to her work the other, a type of "just because." She enjoyed them. Her very religious parents tell me their best advice is "let go. God is in control." well the Lord also gave us free will. I can't make her come back, but so far I'm being a better friend, father, and free of any addictive substances.
2. Your relationship with your wife is over when YOU say it is over ----MarkF
