I can see how some of my posts can come off as arrogant, but I'm not trying to be and definitely not arrogant to my wife. I have plenty of goals and done a total 180. Lot's of activities that I fell out of interest, working out, getting back into music, art, hiking motorcycling, biking etc. Have a PMA and she does see it as she has mentioned it. I know a lot of my problems and our relationship problems where because of the depression, anger etc that I was going through as well as her gambling.
The depression, anger and my health is a solved problem. It's a complete 180. the problem with W is that she is stuck on the past and compares my current state to paste states. She is scared of getting close to me because she is fearful of past hurts coming around again.
I'm not trying to fix her, and not being arrogant to her. The gambling is a huge "hidden" issue so keep that in mind. It's tough tip toeing around the issue because she s not admitting to it.
Today -
Sent wife a text and asked if I could use the van so I could grab one of my bikes. She said it was ok and then asked me for money. She told me she was really short on money this month. I said that I could give her what we agreed on for the child support but no more because I did not have it. She said she did not know what she was going to do and talked about selling some stuff and that she has to get a job.
(I really hope she faces up to the gambling now because of how short on money she is. I mentioned nothing about gambling or anything like that, just said that I was short too.)
Now here's basically the rest of the text conversation:
M - I had to lend my parents money for back taxes so I am really short on money too. W - I don;t know what I'm going to do this month. Can you help (nephew) carry some of the antiques downstairs, I'm going to try and sell them. I'll give you some money if we get a lot for them. M - Yes, I'll help him, but I don't want any money from them. W - I have some jewelry to sell too. M - Sorry about not saying much yesterday to you, but it was hectic running around getting ready for our hike. You seemed like you wanted to talk and I would have if we weren't running around last minute. W - I know. I just wanted to tell you (about OM) myself so you did not find out about it from someone else. W - We're better apart M - Well, I didnt think we were better apart, I know I'm better because I'm healthy mentally, physically and spiritually. No more anger or depression and I feel great. W - Sorry, but I'm less stressed apart. your with the kids more and we're better that way. M - I really do want to share that with you and the kids and everyone else for that matter. I just have so much energy both physically and mentally now and it feels great. W - I can't be happy with you. Sorry, this was the last time. I want you to find someone and be happy. You have a fresh start. No more stress. M - I know a lot of the stress we both dealt with was from other things in the past especially my past moods which I take full responsibility for as well as financial. I'm just worried about you and the kids. (I was trying to see if she would mention the casino, but she didn't bite) W - We'll be fine, I'll get a job. W - I can't, sorry. Too much has happened. Maybe we could be friends one day but that will be it. I can't be with you anymore. I want to be happy. M - I want to be happy too. There's so much that we had planed to do. I just don't like the idea of quiting our marriage without really trying to be a happy normal family where I'm actually healthy mentally. W - I can't be happy with you. I'm sorry, but I always felt alone. M - I'm sorry for neglecting you and the kinds in the past and I really hope you can forgive me for the hurt I have caused. I hope you find your peace. W - It's gonna take time for me to heal. I need to be happy and find it somewhere else. M - I don't know what to tell you, I'm not that angry depressed person anymore. I mean if you need to find love with someone else I can't do anything about that. I'll just have to let you go. The thing that really bothers me though is that what you're looking for is right here in front of you and always has been, it just got buried under a bunch of walls, anger and depression. W - I know you are doing good and I am happy, I just can't do it anymore. M - Just know that I'm here for you as a friend. Always will be. W - Can't do it.
That was it.
Not sure what to do, if i should go dark now and focus on LRT or should I just continue to try and feel things out and test to see what works positively or negativity and adjust accordingly.
I have no idea if she is testing me or if she is seriously set on divorce.
My main issue here is that I have conflicting feelings on the whole going dark and LRT because if there is another M that she is starting to get involved with, my gut says that going dark/LRT will simply push her right into this other guys arms. Basically I'd be digging my own grave.
Some of the stuff she has said the past two days is similar to things she has said in the past especially with feeling along, less stress apart, wanting to see OM, etc. It's also the kind of stuff she was saying right before she crashed and broke down a few months ago about gambling, being apart and how much she really loves me.
And as far as her being screwed up. Yes she is REALLY screwed up right now. Her moods are insane. She is really not normal at all, she is smoking again, drinking, neglecting the kids, the house etc. spending money foolishly, not taking care of the kids, getting all fast food nearly every day, the house was dirty etc. So these actions and her moods are not like her at all. They are a 180 from her normal loving, heart of gold normal self. I'm really worried about her and so is the rest of her family. They see all the changes too and don't know what to do either. They have even said that she is headed straight for a hard crash.
- Scott
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