snodderly, I again thankyou for your reply and insight, I agree with everything you are saying, about laying low, I haven't had anything to do with the ex for 14 months now since he started court proceedings to get us out of his house, we left the house last november and definately had no contact whatsoever with him since then, he took son away 16 months ago for a weekend and because on their return son still wouldn't bend and play happy familiew with dad and his new wife he hasn't bothered with son since then. so how long can this go on for he dragged it through the courts, he put us out of our home and we haven't retaliated one bit, all we ask is son's accounts handing over as all the details are going to the old place and it isn't fair that he has control over sons money when he doesn't want anything to do with son. yes I agree it is a control thing, but hes washed his hands of us so what is the problem, I don't think leaving him alone for a couple of months will make any difference I think he will hang on to the money or spend it for as long as he can, maybe hoping that son will contact him about it. son is adamant that he doesn't want anything to do with his dad seen as though his dad was prepared to put him on the streets. It must have hit very hard to a 12 year old to think your own father could do that to the one he was supposed to love so much, I shall continue not contacting ex because I have no reason to anymore, I shall leave it in the hands of my solicitor, I am sure she knows whats best and how to handle it. once again snodderly thanks for checking in on me