Thanks for dropping by J I don't know if professional counseling would help I think it would probably drag up to many painfull issues for her it would take years to accomplish anything I think. We saw a M counsellor years ago (I loved it) she hated it (it was her suggestion)maybe she thought the C would kick my butt LOL but there's that thing called objectivity ha! Her thing is denial, it probably kept her sane growing up as there was some nasty stuff happening so it was a protective mechanism. She is starting to read a lot and I thing that is helping her I must be very carefull with my input as she resents some of my suggestions from the past (such as the use of meds)but every once in a while she allows me a gentle nudge. I'm not a religous man, but I thank god for this BB and it's inhabitants, for the knowledge and support I have recieved here, with out it my family I'm sure, would have been in a truly nast place right now! C.