J your absolutely right on, but she will not hear it from me, she is bound and determined to do this on her own (she has to anyway) trouble is it may take years for her to get around to it. Hope I'm patient enough to be around in the end whatever she decides. I really think she has many childhood issues that haven't been dealt with (scary stuff believe me). It only angers her if I suggest this so I won't in future. I don't stress my self worring about alien thought process any more,lifes pretty good for me right now so I'll be patient and continue to enjoy what I have. Hey hope your continuing to look after yourself and enjoying your children. Families off to the lake this weekend and I'll have two weeks to myself looking forward to do some of MY projects for a change. C.in his tool apron