Hi J Thanks for the visit. C is not an option and I respect her thoughts, we went through MC years ago and she was a mess. I of course enjoyed it even though it was my fault at the time we were there, but that's me ,I talk too much and her not enough ,she internalizes everything till smoke starts coming out of her ears LOL! Eventually (I hope) she will have to deal with things but it will have to be in her own time. Can only hope my kids don't deal with things the same way. Gerard thanks for the visit. Yes I'm considering my self fortunate for what I do have. Any one know were I can get some salt peter though? LOL! C.