The fact that Michele acknowledges that "not all marriages will be saved", implies that not all marriages can be saved (or are even meant to be saved). However, you seem to advocate that regardless of reality, or regardless of any earnest, wholehearted effort to save a M - which may not even be worth saving - one should simply continue to endure and just try harder? Or that any DB forum-developed support should only offer encouragement if they're Pro-Marriage, regardless of the circumstance. Otherwise they should simply butt out? Where's the logic in that? I don't get it? Am I missing or misinterpreting something?