jethro, just my opinion - FORGET about going to that bar. I'm with shinybear - what in the world for??? Someone posted something that hit me recently - it you have to tell people you have changed, well, have you really? You don't have to convince anyone of anything; a person's behavior and actions over time speak loud and clear. Going to the bar seems silly to me, and if you are both happy, let it go. When you are both comfortable and sure about things, you really WON'T care, and letting go of resentment and anger are two things that will really show when a R is whole again. Who cares what OM thinks anyway?