Thank you Running and SueS for giving me some hope. This Sunday W, OM, and MY two kids went to the beach together... what can I say, I guess W is serious about rebuilding her family with this dude. Anyway I am relaxed and up for the fight. Monday I invited W and kids for dinner at my place, she was a bit undecided if she wanted to come or not, so I said "think how happy the kids would be" - this made the trick - and the kids were really super happy! I was cool, detached but not rude... and without the T-shirt... just to show off a bit. She was very much aloof, so I thought "you have to destroy her confidence". During the serving she said she wasn't very hungry and that she doesn't eat much lately.... I got my chance and I replayed "Really? It doesn't show..." - She said - "that is soooo mean!" But I didn't have a mean tone of voice, so I stayed cool... "Oh come on.... you aren't trying to lose wait! no?" That changed her mood and she wasn't aloof anymore. She said a couple of time "I cannot believe your comment!!" But she was OK and we joked a bit about it. We watched some videos I made of the the kids the last few weeks and then around 9:00 PM they left. At 11:00 PM she called me back thanking me for the dinner... hey that was more then I expected. Today I saw her again, we took the kids to swim, we chatted a bit, she asked me about my day but then she got busy and didn't let me talk. While we were leaving she said, aaah and what did you want to say? I said "it's OK forget it", I was annoyed by her total lack of interest... and I shouldn't have shown it... oh well I cannot be perfect. BTW - she is NOT wearing the ugly necklace, at least when she is with me, that is a pity because it could have been an endless source of jokes.