Shiny, You always do the coolest stuff! have a great time tonight!The only way I can forgive is to empathize with what he was feeling; and that is low self esteem and unloved by me. If I remind myself of these things I can get past it. It seems to sneak back up on me at times, the anger and hurt of his lying and PA. I dont want to go through life with hate in my heart for what he did or even for OW. At this time I hate her but it is fading. I hope. Have a great time tonight and my H is doing something with me tonight instead of going out- any great ideas?>???? Shay