Hi Phoenix! I am glad that Father's Day wasn't a washout, that your W made some effort, as did D17 and eventually S15. I bet the younger ones were all over you. \:\) The messages from church can be lifting, but it can also be making your W feel guilty, and therefore, forcing her to justify and deny the guilt. So, don't put too much stock in that from your W's perspective. It's just good for you to hear, and to feed your spirit. (I used to wonder why my H couldn't hear all the spiritual messages at church, and this is what I figured ... he deafened himself to it, because it didn't fit into what was going on inside his head and heart.)

Yeah, try not to shut down ... at least, for the sake of the children. They will need you to be front and centre in their lives as much as possible.

Just remember that your W has her own free agency ... to do good or not. It is her choice, no matter the consequences. At the same time, you too have your free agency, and I am impressed at how well you have chosen .... you have done your best for your family, and maybe now it's time to let W go, and do what she feels she needs to do. I know how painful all this must be for you and the children. I can just imagine how worn out you must be. Do stuff to relax as much as you can.

Take care!


Me:57 H:52 M:28 Got another lawyer last year and filed.
D35,S/D twins28,D22
EA4/04 End? Who knows?
"Life is like a mirror. Smile at it and it smiles back at you." — Peace Pilgrim