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G--sounds like a bike ride day to me!!! Get that Bike out and ride man..

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Originally Posted By: Gypsy
You're such an open enthusiastic guy, you're a magnet for goodness and fun.


I completely agree. Hope you have a happy day, PgFH. ;-)


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Originally Posted By: gForce
Thank, smw, I needed that. I hope your kids get the love they deserve today.


G--

Their Dad showed up right after church to pick them up. It is so hard--just last year we took him out for brunch and just spent the day together--this year I have to watch him drive away to spend the day with them in the midst of strangers.

He seemed shocked that I had bothered to make sure the kids remembered the holiday. Oh well, I am sure it is not the fist thing that is going to shock him over the next several months.

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I'm sorry for you too G. I think kids should be with their dad on Father's Day for sure, but mine are with me also. I wish they could be with their dad, but oh well! Sometimes holidays suck; I always look forward to the day after lately!!! Sorry I'm probably not cheering you up too much, huh??? \:\) Karen


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Originally Posted By: girlfromipanema
PgFH. ;-)


Now there's a mouthful (so to speak).


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Thanks, gals. It does help to hear your words. Interesting conversation with W. I need to digest it a bit, but I'll fill you in later (don't mean to leave you hanging).


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In case you didn't read it in another thread...Happy Father's Day. I hope you havve a good day, go do something special for you. I'm sorry you aren't with your kids today. Mine are off with H going to the movies and having lunch.

Thanks for going to the movies with me. "Virtual" movie dates can be fun plus you don't have anyone whispering in your ear during the movie. lol

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But having someone whispering in your ear is sometimes the best part.


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W calls to tell me happy father's day-- and it is very strained, forcing the conversation along, neither of us really willing to open up about our lives. SD is with her father. W is on her way to see her parents. Then she mentions that she is planning to set up counseling. I ask her what she hopes to accomplish. She says she needs to straighten out her life, that she is crying all the time for no reason, she doesn't like how she is acting, that she needs to stop hurting the people around her, and that she doesn't know why she is telling me this since she doesn't expect any sympathy from me.

I tell her that I don't like seeing her like this, I get no satisfaction out of it, but what does she want from me (if anything), especially when she is trying so hard to avoid contact with me. But she knows I am right here if she needs anything. She says she doesn't know, just wanted to hear my voice, but thinks she shouldn't have called.

I didn't tell her about the jobs, listing the house, my plans to move, or anything else going on in my life. I didn't ask about OM or anything else going on in hers. I really feel bad for her and it is not as if I am insensitive to her - she is still the woman to whom I am married. But after the lies, deceit, disrespect (see this morning's exchange on lodo's thread) - I feel a divide between us that I don't have the energy or motivation to cross. At least not in response to words. Yes she is confused, in a fog, conflicted -- all those things. But her confusion is not enough for me. Not any more.


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Maybe this will help her get some clarity. She is in no place to make rational decisions. Deep down, I hope it is not too late.
Maybe you should suggest that you talk via e-mail. Then maybe she won't get as emotional. I know that is how my H keeps emotion out of our conversations. I don't suggest using it all of the time but maybe just until she is on more stable ground.

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