My S14 was the same Kat, didn't want to get his dad a present, but I wouldn't have any of that. I told him he could do that only if S14 was prepared to give up his birthday and Christmas presents, and he wasn't of course! I'm about to leave, they have a children's book author speaking at the library at 3 and then I have to get groceries at the store, and the kids take forever, plus dinner, so 6:30 or 7 is probably the earliest I can do it. Just let me know!!! And are we watching Waitress right after or doing that another day??? Karen