Hurting the kids....I think that had something to do with my W "coming back". W is absolutely in love with D7. I said this often and I read it also...I could learn to forgive WAS for hurting me but I will never be able to forgive WAS for what she has done to the kids. Luckily for me it has not gotten to this stage. If I can be brutally honest if D7 was not around, I don't think I could have overlooked the EA. If W decided to come back, I would have opted for the dating route for at least 6 months. On the failure issue, regardless of who's fault it really is, the good parent / spouse will always consider divorce a falure.