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[phoenyx]

okay, that is me, that is what i would say. everybody says she is going to call, that this is common. i ran by you guys, what i wanted to get across to her in conversation. i am not obesessed, yesterday i was at work for 8 hours and talked to YOU ALL my friends about it. all i want is some feedback. i am confident that she will call, i am confident that she loves me, i know she is confused. i want to see her through. this is not something that i need, it is something that i want.

[phoenyx]

what do you mean sinking sand?

[phoenyx]

what the hell happened to man up and this can be db'd?

[Lissie]

Man up has been changed to woman up.

B/c Um I think we just really do it!

[phoenyx]

so i am suppose to cry when she calls?

k now what

[fig]

fer sher

overaries are where it is at

and

Tiger

we have all been telling you to DB
and
to (wo)man up

and

to breath

you are going nutso here
you are planning conversations that may or may not happen
and
it is like you want to fix it yesterday
but sometimes

it takes time

like 72 hours or so

(and if one person tells me to take my own advice it is on like popcorn)

[Jack_Three_Beans]

Cowboy up, and this can be DB'ed.

I think the frustration (late comer here) stems from the seeming tactics and expected response from those tactics.

Do things for you, not to ellicit a response.
Say things that you would say, maybe ask how but not what.

[phoenyx]

i feel the conversation will happen, because she will call. not because i left a ring, but because she will miss me. those are the things that i want to get across to her.

[AmyC]

what the hell happened to man up and this can be db'd?

Don't suggest to me that I'm contradicting myself, Blynd, because I am not.

You do need to man up and I do believe that almost any relationship can be DBed.

That said, what I DON'T believe is you'd even be having this issue right now had you stopped for 2 minutes and said to God "what do You think?".

No.
You just jumped in ass over teacup because it all seemed so wonderful to you. YOU thought it was "meant to be" and that was good enough for you so why bother asking God? If it "feels" good it MUST be heaven sent, right? Hmmphhh.

You know how far we go back - since both of our first days on this site so you know I am your friend. In the spirit of friendship I'm going to tell you that I've been pissed at you since last night.

I'm going to tell you something and even though I might apologize for it later it won't change the fact that it's the truth - if this relationship does go belly up and those boys get hurt again (and her boy as well now) it is going to be just as much your fault as it is hers and all you had to do in the beginning was bring it before the Lord and seek His will, His blessing, His protection EVERYTHING that He has that sits untouched waiting for you to decide Richie ain't King of his world with it all going on again. If those boys get hurt, it's on you. Before you are anything, you are the spiritual leader of your house. I'm sorry that's an inconvenient truth for you.

I'm sorry to leave everybody else to mop up this mess but seeing someone that's had a blessing given to them that didn't turn right around and give it back to God for safekeeping is just more than I can take today.

[Jack_Three_Beans]

I think Amy brought a nuke to a knife fight.
But then she knows you better than I do Blynd.