NoCode, I have had several arguments like that with my H, too. And the thing is are they productive in any way? If it just leads to bitterness (at least on your W's part) and yelling and fury and all that, what is the point on trying to discuss divorce stuff with your W? Again, I would suggest you tell her that the Ls will handle it or something like that. I just don't think you are going to accomplish anything positive with these kind of discussions, and it's so stressful so why bother? (Please remind me of this advice when I go through this all, too, in case I forget!) \:\) Karen

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