I have thought about that, i think that could also be part of the problem. Before the bomb we had talked about it and she was not receptive to that talk. Now I think maybe she soule be more receptive to that talk as long as it wasnt the same old talk that we have had before. I am looking into those things as well.
Scotty,
The whole overnighter thing would be a little down the road. I want to see how the 180 will work. If she is receptive on the 180, It will be approached as just a night out with out the kid. If she is not receptive to the 180 it will still be approached as a night out with out the kid . Which is always helpful to the sanity of parents.
Right now im in the monitoring stage of a 180 hopefully all will go well.