jmw, I do agree with you, and have to admit the fact that yes life is better in our new home where he cannot control us, and I am sure deep down he didn't really want to put us out, it is like the lawyers said someone as mentioned issuing proceedings and it as escalated into something he couldn't control anymore. it was out of his hands and I personally think it was done to scare son and I into doing as he wished and me make son play happy families with him and new wifey, son as a mind of his own and as he says now, well dad can't think that much of me to disown me like he as for her, no-one at all can believe what he as done, but the sheer fact that he doesn't contact or wish to see his only fledgling is proof of the pudding that something is wrong with the guy whether it be mlc or not, his son was the be all and end all in his life, and how can you try and have a relationship in future years if at all when you threw your only child on the streets. I went past the old home yesterday it is sad how he as let it go, as I said he was in such a rush to get us out and get it sold, the garden is getting so overgrown he will never sell it, if he doesn't want to do it surely he could pay someone to go do it with all his money, all the neighbours are disgusted as it is really pulling the area down. I guess he just cannot be bothered with the old place as it was linked to us, he doesn't get seen up there but wifey does. ex has also lost nearly everything he had when the house goes she is the only thing he will have left, he has no friends, no family, nothing from the past like personal items because he didn't take them with him, but like I said he will end up with nothing and nobody, and it is coming true, I do wonder from time to time and you must do too, do you think they are happy in their new life and do you think they ever think of their kids, I mean not to contact your only child for 14 months I find appalling, you fight for everything you can jmw and fight hard my girl. I am in the middle of fighting him for son's bank accounts at the moment, when we went through court, he eventually offered me ten percent of the selling price of the house when it did sell and I asked for son's bank accounts to be handed over to my name as part of my agreement, he agreed to that and should have sorted it as says in the court order by jan 4th this year, he hasn't done it so it looks like me taking him to court now, but for my son's sake I will fight him every step of the way