One other thought kinda out of the blue....

Weekly counseling sessions, church meetings, classes, etc, to me, are of very little practical value in terms of effecting permanent change in one's self.

This is another reason this message board is helpful. Efforts that you can engage on a daily basis are, to me, far more effective in promoting change because concepts we learn do not have a chance to go stale or get choked out by everyday life.

If we revisit what we are trying to learn daily, we get better much faster... and more permanently... in my experience anyway.

Random thoughts that came to mind.

Ciao.

Chazz