Cinders - the dead eyes are awful and they remember so little . . . my h has said things and not only denied saying them but acccusd me of making them up!

They try and foist the OP onto everyone, calling it 'normal', and get very aggrieved with people who don't want to buy in. For a variety of reasons they are trying on a new lifestyle, and want everyone to accept this. Deep down so many of them are very uncertain about what they are doing. They feel trapped, and instead of making the inward journey, which is what MLC requires, they externalise their problems.

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