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Hi Jeff, just popping in to check up on you! I'm glad the C is helping. I'm calling around today for one. Working makes it hard to get one with hours you need.

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What you focus on expands. If you don't expect change you'll never get it.

Your C also said control freaks never change. I did! but when I was a control freak I just thought that I liked to know what everyone was doing or how they were doing it and I could offer a better way to do it. I thought it was conversation. I didn't know that labeled me a control freak. I must've changed because now I know nuttin about anything anyone is doing and sharing ideas is a foreign language!

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The C I am seeing schedules an appointment for me in early morning on the Fridays I work. I think it is usually her planning time, but she sees me then. A lot of them have weekend or evening hours, if you call around. Do you have an EAP at work?

(((((WCW)))))

I have not given up on the idea that W can change. But, based on the past, and the present, and what the C said, I am not overly optimistic. In the same discussion we did say that anything was possible. I think it will take something serious to trigger her to change. Like the real threat of D, or something like that. Which is of course playing with fire, since once you go there, you are out of bullets, I think. So, we shall see. At least I think I am feeling better about me. I have caught myself humming and singing to myself more lately, I think that is a good sign!

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Originally Posted By: WCW
What you focus on expands.

So I guess I shouldn't be looking at my tummy when I weigh myself!

One stiff ice water, coming up! It's one of my specialties!

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Originally Posted By: dry_heat

I think it will take something serious to trigger her to change. Like the real threat of D, or something like that. Which is of course playing with fire, since once you go there, you are out of bullets, I think. So, we shall see. At least I think I am feeling better about me. I have caught myself humming and singing to myself more lately, I think that is a good sign!
I recall a conversation similar to that, threat of a D to cause change but are you ready if it doesn't have the effect you desire?
I like whistling, keeps my lips in good shape in case I ever get a kiss again!


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I think you are right, don't remember where, I think it is a recurring theme. Sort of the beyond LRT, I think. But, you have to mean it, and be prepared for the result. I am darned close.

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Hey, I am late on the drink order but would love a Mojito!

Also, fajitas if you have some red peppers and guacamole to put on them! Okay, I am slowly talking myself into going out for dinner now....

Also, there IS cherry vodka. I went to West Hollywood with my sister for a lawyer convention--she's the lawyer. A guy with us bought 2 bottles of Effen Vodka. Pronounced F-in. I drank it with 7Up and it tasted like cherry 7up. They gave us a bowl of cherries to put in it...

Glad the counseling is making you see your own strengths, and that your wife is the one who really needs to make some changes. My C also feels my H is not willing to change, but who knows??

Enjoy your weekend. I will wear my fuzzy striped socks tonight just for you... \:\)


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Jeff,

happy you feel good about the apt. I wouldn't take the whole "rarely change" convo to heart though. My C said the exact same words when I first started going 5 months ago (she doesn't want to see me anymore!!!). AFTER she met H (manipulative Kalni) for a couple of times she said "I was wrong, he wants to change, he knows he has issues, he has NFC how to do it, he thinks it's impossible, yes you are right, this marriage is worth saving".

So, don't jump into conclusions just yet. And she maybe negative at first just like my H was. He still doesn't want to go BUT last time on Sat, he ASKED her to discuss with him and all they talked about was how would the future be, how he needs to change things... (writing about it made me smile).

You just started, give it some time.
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(((((((BobbiJo)))))))
Red peppers and guacamole are no problem!

The critical information, what color are the stripes?

((((((Kalni))))))
So, manipulative Kalni did what manipulative Jeff wants to do! Get W in to see the C, without thinking it is for her! (OK, in your case H!) I think the results of this will be interesting. The C wants her to see a different C in the same office, so that the opinion will be completely unbiased, and then the C's will talk to each other. If things go well, it could result in joint and individual Cing for both of us. We shall see.

I am not jumping to conclusions, though I may be walking in that direction. If I ever get to a conclusion, I will be planning travels!

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Good Night Jeff mou!!

Be good while I am gone!

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