I'd never heard the song, Jack, but Google found it easily!
Massage is a very interesting idea, W2S. My first instinct is of course negative, I've kinda gotten conditioned that way. But, if she would go for it, it might be a great way to get comfortable with being in the same room, or even closer than that. I would have never though of it! And I expect you are right, if she doesn't appreciate it, someone will!
Ali, you are quite correct, she is so far in her hole, there's no where for her to go!
I have thought a lot about what the boys are seeing. I've often wondered it this is worse that them seeing a divorce. I am sure the older two see a lot. I think they think their mom is a bit off. The youngest still thinks she walks on water. I'm not sure about S13, probably in the middle, somewhere. But I agree, for a lot of reasons the status quo is not healthy.
You didn't overstep a bit Ali. (((((((Ali))))))) And thank you for your very kind words!
