I think this is where I belong.

[missmyfriend]

Jay, how did your wife's father handle it? Did he have contact with his W after she left and, if so, how did he treat her?

And I noticed that Jack's W had issues with their son turning 10. There may have been several factors for my W but she started down this road about the same age as when her mom took her and her siblings from their dad. My Ws dad did not try very hard to see them and her mother is an alcoholic with very little capacity to show love.