Oh that is so sad to hear Kissak! I thought she was getting better with that too since I didn't read much about it lately. MLCers definately seem to be in their own world and can't comprehend what it is they're doing to their family. Even when I read what you just wrote about your H wanting to make sure it just won't work with OW before he commits to you.....HELLO!..... shouldn't he be doing that with his wife instead of this trash??? Grrrr!