My goodness Patti, a lot of comment.

How do you feel right now? Is having your h home OK? Are you happy in your space together, or is it eggshells? Is the lack of intimacy a problem for you or is that you 'feel ' you should be having sex?? We live in a society that is preoccupied, rather pruriently, with other peoples sex lives.

For so many of the MLCers so much of it is about sex [and death, by implication]. And we get sucked into that vortex. I am not saying sex isn't important, but try not to assign teh same importance to it that the MLCer does/did. A wine lover likes wine. An alcoholic needs it. A big and crucial difference

We hear a lot about behaving well and not behaving well. SOrry but for the MLCer this is irrelevant. They are in survival mode, where let's face it you will kill and eat another person to stay alive.

Patti, he is still in MLC, and it is tough. Do what you need to survive. Rant here, throw him out or leave if you can't take it - and most of us couldn't. But do what you thnk is right for you. You can't fix him.

Ulitmatums, 'should' and 'shoudn't' apply to those people whose h's didn't have a MLC. For the MLCer those terms are irrelevant as long as they are in the girp of this crisis. Please do not think I am condoning immorality, not at all. The problem is they have lost their moral compass!!

Hugs, and a not very helpful post

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